The UGLY Chinese Canadian blog’s email IN box lit up like a Christmas tree today.
We received over a couple dozen emails expressing concern over a CBC tv newsclip yesterday regarding “foreign espionage” here in Canada. Here are a few snippets from the emails we received:
Subject: sino-phobia / csis interview on cbc
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/06/22/spying-csis.html
did all of you catch Brian Stewart’s interview with CSIS head Fadden? if i didn’t know any better, i could have sworn it was CTV’s Campus Giveaway all over again.
right before the G8-G20, Fadden makes the claim that at least 2 provincial MLAs and 2 provinces are being groomed as ‘agents of influence’, and that at the municipal level China has also infiltrated govt. he also repeats long-standing accusations that the Confucius Institute is really a recruitment centre for the Chinese govt.
the interview mentions that ‘1/2 dozen’ countries’ have been aggressive in their espionage, tho no countries are ever named. the only one that is identified by the interviewer indirectly with acquiescence from Fadden is China.
this morning on the 6 am CBC news net, Stewart followed up by saying that if provincial ministers became too cozy that it would mean countries like China would have access to our resources and Canada would ‘lose out’ because then it wouldn’t be able to secure higher prices …
All this seems rather odd to me – because isn’t it in the DocZone Tar Sands documentary that it is pointed out the *U.S.* is the country of influence who has successfully siphoned off all our oil to the south – that provinces in Central Canada now rely on unstable countries in south america to provide energy ??? Given the US grip on Canada, it seems unlikely that a major pipeline to China will happen soon, and if it does, it will be with a lot of resistance/ influence from our neighbours south. Geez, you wonder how much ‘handed-down’ intelligence (words used in the CBC interview) that Fadden and CSIS actually rely upon from the US ?
Whatever happened to due process in Canada?
What is bothersome is that Stewart, now retired and normally a reliable journalist, made no effort to get the other side of the story – why not interview the Vancouver politicians and reps in BC and find out what they have to say about these un-identified accusations?
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Here are some other remarks, gleaned from our email discussions:
I got the same feeling as you when I watched the report. Were there not even shots of Chinatown? This issue could potentially be as serious as “Campus Giveaway” of 30 years go. By one stroke, CSIS has painted the entire Chinese Canadian community as potential Chinese spies and having doubtful loyalty to Canada. CSIS and the CBC need to name names, so the alleged can defend themselves. McCarthyism is alive and well in 2010.
It is not surprising that these allegations come on the eve of Chinese president Hu’s visit to Canada. I am sure there are anti-China elements in the bureaucracy and government that want to sabotage good relations with China.
I would like to see CSIS come to the same conclusion with other countries.
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Here’s one from an unhappy Canadian:
ya know, there’s a lot of validity ie. lot of truth in that cbc report.
frankly, i’m too tired to keep battling. We win the W5… and the immigrant chinks take advantage of our ground work… fill up the university spots with their spoiled brats, while we canadian borns get bumped off, rub their eyes and wonder WTF?
We win the headtax apology effort… and the immigrant chinks hog up the headlines… and photo op with PM.
I for one, am tired of canadian borns lke you and I doing all the activism and hard work, only to have the quasi canadians from china, hk, taiwan and other foreign opportunists wait and suck up our credit.
I’m just gonna pop open a couple of cans of beer, watch some hockey game re-runs and keep on flying the finger at all the friggen chinatown “leaders”… the same assholes who let chinatown be the shithole it is today.
Let’s see what our so-called community leaders and gate keepers have to say about this.
what is ‘China’ ? a nation to always be demonized? at the same time the Alberta govt gives away its oil to our American cousins?
if national security is an issue, sure then call it a security issue. but using innuendo without naming names? if that happened in the non-Asian community, there’d be an uproar.
but since chinese are really ‘canadian’ we just swallow it like we did 100 years ago. enough is enough.
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Chinese are always easy targets because they look ‘different’. We (asians) are 10% of Canada now. We ARE the mainstream !! so cbc and csis, etc, should get used to it and defend US, not the other way around (let the U.S. and Britain, dictate our foreign affairs policy for us).
The email sure generated a lot of replies ! …. Hot topic, right now! ….
And this just in from CBC news site:
BC Premier Gordon Campbell blasts CSIS chief over allegations
B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell says allegations by the head of CSIS that some B.C. politicians and municipal officials are under the influence of foreign governments are shocking and irresponsible.
Campbell says Canadian Security Intelligence Service director Richard Fadden’s statements are unprofessional and call into question the inner workings of Canada’s spy agency.
“To cast aspersions and doubt on people in public office — we don’t know which cabinet ministers and which provinces he’s talking about — but to say that kind of thing at a public function and then release it to the media without talking to people directly involved is to me … I’m frankly incredulous by it,” he said.
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CSIS head retreats
Meanwhile, Fadden appears to be backing away from his controversial comments.
At this point, CSIS has not deemed the cases to be of sufficient concern to bring them to the attention of provincial authorities.
Allegations made in CBC interview
Fadden did not say which countries are suspected of being involved in the practice, but in his interview with CBC he pointed to a statement by former CSIS boss Jim Judd that the intelligence agency spends half its counter-espionage budget dealing with China.






I agree 110% with the prior posts. I think the 2nd step for CBC is to get Melissa Fung to report on the recent trips of government officials to Europe, including Britain and France, and how our trade with them has increased lately, but not name any names.
Canada will always be joined at the hip with the U.S., of that there is no question. But when we talk about our sovereignty and national security, why is never okay to have relations with another SuperPower other than the U.S. and its cronies? Might as well tell Fadden to get a job with the CIA, then. We could save lots of money and beat China into submission with even more resources until they say, “Yes, we do have slant eyes, you win.”
Sure, there’s the taliban and other tin-pot terrorists, but CSIS prefers to spend 50% or more of their counter-espionage budget on China because heaven forbid the Chinese rob us of all our oil, and make one big stir-fry with it. How awful.
What next? I bet the Chinese invade Iraq just for their oil but tell the world they have weapons of mass destruction.
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hey . lets get dumb and dumber : Raymond ‘nice doo’ Chan and Alice ‘deaf, dumb & stoopid’ to handle this!
Alice Wong the MP …could she be a spy!? she must be… cuz no one can really be that goddamn dumb!
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“at least 2 provincial MLAs and 2 provinces are being groomed as ‘agents of influence’”
I am sure CSIS underestimated the numbers. China is a big country, anything can happen. With the amount of resources China has invested in infiltrating Canada, I am amazed that CSIS would admit to only two MLA’s. May be they have focused too much on politicians. They may find government and business officials are way more attractive to China as “agent of influence”.
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Who does China think it is trying to ‘lobby’ us??? Um, do they think they are our banks? Our insurance industry ? Our credit card companies ?
The NERVE !!
If they want oil from us so badly, why don’t they do the ‘right’ thing and go invade an innocent nation, tell the rest of the world they have ‘weapons of mass destruction’ and pretend nothing ever happened.
I’m so tired of these ‘evil do-ers’ like China and these sad Chinese Canadians.
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I think the CBC report is accurate, those Chinese keep trying to steal ‘our’ trade secrets like the Blackberry. That’s what I was telling my friend after RIM settled their lawsuit with the Americans for stealing, I mean, infringing on their intellectual property. LMAO.
Canada should spend their counter-espionage on planting factory workers in China and finding out how they can make those Zhu Zhu toys cheaper than we can here.
Yeah, those Chinese can’t be trusted with anything. They are so sneaky.
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hardy har har! So we think the chinese are spying on us!? Who else is spying? The Brits? The Americans? The French?
It’s mind blowing when you associate ‘Chinese’ with spying… and not associate ‘eurocentric’ ie. white nations with spying.
We all know that its much more exciting to make the moon eyed asians the spy. This time the Chinese. A decade back it was the Koreans, 30 years ago, it was the Japanese.
Sheesh. We all know nations spy on one another. Why make a big fuss about it now? Thanks Fadden for cooling a potential opportunity to heal wounds with China’s Hu. Now we’ve lost credibility with the Chinese again… so the Germans, Americans and others will cash in on the opportunities lost by Canadians.
CSIS, you are the most incompetent piece of work here in Canada. Just look at your sad track record … remember, it was CSIS whose bungling made it possible for those evil terrorist to bomb the Air India plane excactly 25 years earlier.
Mebbe CSIS shoould spy on other international agencies and learn how to really know how to spy and gather intelligence. CSIS stop embarassing Canada!
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Why do white people have so much hatred toward Chinese people?
Can’t they just hate blacks, middle-eastern and other minorities?
If I had so much time to hate whites, I would never have time to enjoy life or get my laundry done.
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China may have the Great Wall, but even we do not have such a glorious website as this one.
It rocks!
- Hui the JinTao
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The Canadian Chinese people, are good everyday people. They have their criminal element, the same as we do. I never even thought Canadian Chinese, when Fadden said BC is influenced by China. Everyone I know put Campbell and China together. We didn’t even think, of blaming the Canadian Chinese People. We blamed Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals, they are well known, to be very underhanded and sneaky.
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