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Why move to Canada?

22 May Posted by David in Opinion, vancouver | 14 comments
Why move to Canada?
 

Thanks to blogger Suzanne Ma for this opinion piece.

Originally posted at: www.suzannema.com

Why move to Canada?

After nearly two years living in Hong Kong and China, I have come back to Canada. Why? I told my husband I wanted to come “home.”

I talked about clean air, the convenience of Canada’s healthcare system, social security, a good education system (for the little ones, should they arrive in the coming years), a steady, peaceful life. I talked about fitting in, about multiculturalism, about feeling comfortable in your own skin. These are all the things a Canadian life offers us.

My husband, a Dutch citizen with a Master’s degree, managed to find a job pretty quickly. The company was willing to sponsor, but as it turned out, the worker’s visa would take longer to process than the permanent residency application already underway — something we started after we were married last August. So after getting his residency in March, we started making plans to move to Vancouver.

It’s expensive to live here. Earlier this year, a survey found that Vancouver was the most expensive city in North America, even more expensive than New York and L.A. Though, there are now signs that the housing market is starting to slow.

Marc called his parents in the Netherlands over the weekend and his mother asked: “So do you like it better there or in Hong Kong?” Marc said it was too early to tell.

We compare Canada to Hong Kong all the time. We compare the salaries (competitive) we compare the cost of eating out (a win for HK), we compare the transportation network (a win for HK), we compare the food (still debating), we compare the scenery (tropics vs. snow-capped mountains?). We cringe at the taxes we will have to pay here in Canada, compared to the very low taxes in Hong Kong. We tell ourselves that social security comes at a cost, and remember the wise Vulcan proverb that tells us the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

The fact is, as a skilled immigrant, my husband can make and save a lot more money if we were living in Asia.

A recent Globe and Mail article quotes a Chinese immigrant to Canada who has chosen to return to Shanghai after graduating from a Toronto university. “In Canada, you have a good standard of living, but you can’t make big money,” the 29-year-old Chinese woman told the paper.

So many skilled and educated immigrants are seeking financial opportunities elsewhere. It’s changing the makeup of Canada’s immigrant population. And we are constantly asking ourselves: is clean air, a good education system and social security more important than the chance to “make big money” elsewhere?

The immigrant population is now further influenced by a shift in Canada’s immigration policy — from favouring skilled immigrant workers to preference for those who have money to invest.

The flood of wealthy Chinese immigrants to Canada can be seen across the country, not just in large cities like Toronto and Vancouver (where wealthy Chinese buyers are blamed for driving up real estate), but in places you might not expect, like Prince Edward Island (home of the Anne of Green Gables story). China has been the chief source of immigration to P.E.I. for the past five years, with nearly 2,400 newcomers arriving between 2006 and 2009 alone, according to the province’s Population Secretariat. During that time, some Chinese immigrants had their visa application expedited through a provincial nominee program by proving they were willing and capable of investing at least $200,000 in a P.E.I business, according to a story by the National Post in 2011. The program has since undergone some changes, including a cap on the number of nominees per year.

The day my husband received his permanent residency, he put on a Hudson’s Bay mitt and took some photos in our favourite park.
Foreign investment is important, but so is foreign talent. I’ll ask my husband again in a few months time about our decision to move to Canada. And I’ll be sure to blog his response.

  1. Judge Dredd05-22-12

    No offence to her, but she is a Canada-born-chinese.

    Why does she have to or want to live in HK in the first place?

    Do you think she can just go there (Hong Kong) to live because of her race?

    She and her husband didn’t grow up there or have any reasons to live there besides their race?
    (just like can any white canuck just waltz into USA and live there for no good reason?)

    And why does her husband need a worker’s visa? Why doesn’t she, a CBC, get him Canadian permanent residency?

    About the “clean air, a good education system and social security”, does that include New York city or Los Angeles? Are there smog and pollution, do people go to private school/prep school, and are there any homeless people there despite the so-called social security?

    They don’t know about HK system then they shouldn’t be there. They are just stealing hk people’s jobs.

    I want to post this over there, but my post won’t show up.

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  2. judge dredd05-23-12

    one more word on earning money, I see some white people in Canada and usa earn 3 to 10 millions a year as ceo, vp, senior partners. How come these two cbc don’t get goid jobs from white people?

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  3. chinktalk05-25-12

    I don’t think suzanne’s husband is Canadian, he is from the Netherlands, but he will feel right at home in the lowermainland because there is a very large Dutch population in BC.

    I read somewhere that the social programs in Holland is actually better than those in Canada, so I don’t know why Suzanne doesn’t move to Holland with her husband instead of bumping around Hong Kong or Canada.

    It appears that Suzanne’s husband enjoys her Chinese and Canadian roots more than the Dutch ways.

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  4. Judge Dredd05-27-12

    How come not a word from Marc Kuo and Suzanne Ma?

    Marc Kuo’s about page:
    http://kuomarc.wordpress.com/about/

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  5. chinktalk05-29-12

    If Suzanne’s husband is an ethnic Chinese-Dutch citizen with family there, there are really only two types of Chinese living in Holland. Marc’s parents would either be in the restaurant business or they would be drug dealers.

    Given that Marc is intelligent, well educated, and a balanced individual, his parents must be in the illegal drug business.

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    • tUCC05-29-12

      @chinktalk “Given that Marc is intelligent, well educated, and a balanced individual, his parents must be in the illegal drug business.”

      :-) you’re a card chinktalk… and should be dealt with!!! that’s why we love you

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    • Ronglimeng05-30-12

      “…there are really only two types of Chinese living in Holland.”

      Chinktalk, isn’t that coming dangerously close to generalising and stereotyping – which of course, we all abhor ?

      Your statement reminds me of that old joke about there being only two types of people who come from Timmins, Ontario. [The second type is 'hockey-players']

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    • Message from white guy on java12-15-12

      For the record, Dutch Chinese are very diverse, and many of them are from Indonesian or Surinamese backgrounds. Some of them play soccer (Calvin Jong-a-ping); some of them illustrate children’s books (The Tjong-Khing); whatever; they’re a real community, and real individuals. I get that it’s a joke, but it’s not that funny. Wouldn’t be funny about any group in the Lower Mainland; it’d be inappropriate…

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  6. gold price06-18-12

    In a 2006 study carried out by the Higher Education Quality Council of Market of Ontario cited that the average employment Income among second generation Chinese-Canadians living in Ontario was $45,293 CAD compared to the national average of $40,099 for the children of all immigrant parents. Chinese Canadian men had an average income of $48,519, the second highest next to Croatian Canadians while Chinese Canadian women earned an average of $43,198 annually where they had the of the highest average employment incomes among Canadian ethnic minorities.

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  7. Takethis06-20-12

    I found this thread to be quite interesting. I found some info on Wikipedia. Hopefully it is credible info. I’m not always too sure about wiki stuff.

    As of 2008[update], figures from the Netherlands’ Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek showed:

    Persons born outside of the Netherlands:
    32,405 China-born persons (14,734 men, 17,671 women)
    9,971 Hong Kong-born persons (4,963 men, 5,008 women)
    86 Macau-born persons (42 men, 44 women)
    1,991 Taiwan-born persons (746 men, 1,245 women)

    Persons born in the Netherlands:
    14,703 persons with at least one parent born in China (7,560 men, 7,143 women)
    8,194 persons with at least one parent born in Hong Kong (4,184 men, 4,010 women)
    32 persons with at least one parent born in Macau (16 men, 16 women)
    390 persons with at least one parent born in Taiwan (203 men, 187 women)

    Totalling 67,772 persons.[1]

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    • Judge Dredd06-21-12

      I know white people who were born in Japan, China and Korea (or white americans born in germany, africa and etc.) … I don’t see the point here.

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      • Judge Dredd06-21-12

        And Holland population is 16.7 million?

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